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evillinn From: evillinn Date: November 5th, 2008 06:38 pm (UTC) (Link)
I roll my eyes at this. I will also point out that I'm snarkily amused that Native Americans aren't mentioned in the piece.

faerieburst From: faerieburst Date: November 5th, 2008 07:09 pm (UTC) (Link)
Wait, why are you rolling your eyes at this?

The article accurately points out that it's more than a "we elected a black president, as opposed to all the white presidents in the past". People from many ethnic groups who get lumped in the "white" category have never been personally represented either. Our selection process has been even more rigid and exclusive than one realizes at first glance. Seriously, how many people realize that our presidents have only come from British, Irish or German descent? I certainly didn't.

In light of that, the article would seem to highlight that this is even more of a momentous happening than originally thought, taken in the context of the utter lack of diversity even within the "white" classification.

I don't believe that he was being flip or sarcastic with these sentences: "But I think we can assume that from now on there won’t be any perceived disadvantage to candidates of Italian, French, Asian, or other previous genealogies not previously seen in the White House. For that, congratulations to Barack Obama."

I think this was an article of respect and hope for the future.

evillinn From: evillinn Date: November 5th, 2008 07:17 pm (UTC) (Link)
I don't think he was being flip or sarcastic, either. And I don't actually think it is sour grapes.

I just found the article to be a bit ridiculous right now. I'm somewhat torn about the hyper-focus on Obama's race. He wasn't elected because he's black (or half black as so many articles seem to be pointing out this morning). He was elected because huge segments of the population believe he can lead us to something better.

That said, the thing that made me cry last night was knowing what this means to the black community. Its profound.

Also, I remain somewhat annoyed at the constant lack of reference to the need for Native American leaders on the federal platform, particularly when people are pointing out the opportunity for German or Italian-American leaders.
faerieburst From: faerieburst Date: November 5th, 2008 07:24 pm (UTC) (Link)
It is absolutely profound what it means to the black community. And it is also profound what it means to ALL minority communities. I don't think it is inappropriate for someone to point that out.

The Native American question is a more complex one for me. No other minority group in this country is simulanteously attempting to be a part of the country AND maintain a separate nation identity. It seems an odd dicotomy to me of "we want a share in leading the group, but we don't want to be fully part of the group." It would be something I would be interesting discussing further with you sometime, as you have first hand data that I think would be incredibly valuable to my thought process.

gkr From: gkr Date: November 5th, 2008 07:26 pm (UTC) (Link)
You forget Puerto Ricans. They are trying to maintain status as both part of this country and a separate one as well.
faerieburst From: faerieburst Date: November 5th, 2008 07:28 pm (UTC) (Link)
They haven't taken the separation quite as far as the Native Americans have currently, but to a more minor degree, absolutely. And I feel the same, "Wait, you can't have it both ways" reaction in re: to Puerto Rico.

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